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Live from Peachtree
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Case
Presenter ~ Jeff Brosius, NREMT-P
Peachtree Street ~ a rough and tumble area of Atlanta
that produces a wide variety of EMS runs.
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The 'Sick or Not
Sick' Case
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| History/Background:
4 7
y/o Male, went to Family Physician's office for a
complaint of feeling dizzy and weak. Pt states he had dark
tarry stools about 6 days ago, resolved, then had another
dark bloody stool this morning.
PHx:
Spasmodic epiglottis,
Acid-Reflux (GERDS), borderline HTN.
Rx: Pepcid. All: NKDA. Surgical Hx: Appendectomy,
1982.
Social Hx: No ETOH, no IVDU, smokes an occasional cigar.
Pt presented at doctors office withpale, clammy skin, mild
diaphoresis, and VS: 90/62, 128, 20. No trauma.
Physical Exam:
A+O x 2, slightly
disoriented. Skin Pale, clammy, diaphoretic. VS: B/P
86/60, P 132 (Sinus Tachycardia, no ectopy.) R 22, SpO2
98% room air. PERRLA. AIrway patent, clear. Head
normmocephalic, atraumatic. No JVD. No carotid Bruits.
Breath sounds clear x 4. Abdomen soft, mild tenderness BUQ to
palpation. Extremities: weak pulses, equal grip strength.
Dextrose stick ~ 80 mg/dL.
Other info:
Patient can not tolerate lying supine, as this gives him
trouble with his spasmodic epiglottis. He is anxious, and
scared, but understands the situation (understands why he
is going to the ER by ambulance, and that his condition is
moderately serious.) Wife also understands
the situation. The doctors office is about 14 miles from
the Hospital, there is moderate
traffic, and it is a warm summer day, with sunshine.
Crew configuration
EMT-I/EMT-P, and
standing orders allow for the
administration of just about everything in the ambulance
except Morphine (and a few other
minor things...) on Standing Order Protocols.
There is no difficulty in
obtaining access to the patient. Physician at the office
provides a chart copy detailing the patients medical
history.
Outcome
The poor gentleman was diagnosed with an ulceration to the upper aspect
of the stomach wall, with intermittent bleeding. He recieved a total of 1
liter Normal Saline and 500 mL of Ringer's Lactate in the pre-hospital
setting. He was also provided oxygen via NRB mask at 12 lpm, and was
placed on a cardiac monitor. Transport to the ER was uneventful, and he
actually improved somewhat (arrival Viatl signs: B/P 118/76, P 88, R 18,
SpO2 99%.)
Skin color had improved, diaphoresis was decreased, and most importantly, he
stated "I feel a lot better." He was delivered to the ER nurse with the
usual report. The ER ran a few blood tests, took a Chest
X-Ray, abdominal X-Rays, and did a 12-lead.
Later that day, he went for a endoscopy exam, and the ulcer was found.
The patient and his physician elected on a trial run of conservative
treatment with medications (Zantac and Pepcid) and changes in diet. He
was admitted to the hospital for a 23 hour observation, and discharged
home the next day.
Learning point: The color of blood in a suspected GI bleed can clue you in
to where, how old, and how bad the bleed can be. Higher up bleeds (i.e near
the esophageal sphincter) can be brighter red than those lower in the
stomach or intestines. Dark blood is also usually older, indicating a long
term issue. Finally, the worse the bleed, the brighter the blood, generally
speaking, due to the inability of the GI system to break down all the red
blood cells before the are eliminated.
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The 'Transfer' Case
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| History/Background:
78 y/o F presented to the hospital for a complaint of stomach
pain.
Patient diagnosed with a leaking AAA §, and underwent
surgical repair.
Afterwards, patient began developing
progressively worsening dyspnea §, and also
became
hypotensive §. Repeat CT scan failed to show any bleeding,
and
exploratory laparotomy §
concurred with this. However,
there was an extensive
build-up of scar tissue at the surgical
site, causing a wound dehiscence §. This dehiscence began causing a pressure on the hepatic
§
vein, the inferior
vena cava,
and the hepatic portal.
Medical History:
Appendectomy as a child. NIDDM §.
Glaucoma §. Hypothyroidism
§
(secondary to removal of thyroid approx 8 yrs ago.)
Osteoporosis §.
Recurrent UTI §. Mild CHF
§.
Medications:
Glyburide. Synthroid. Multi-vitmain. Lasix.
No known drug allergies.
Physical Exam:
Frail appearing elderly woman, in obvious respiratory
distress. Alert and Oriented x 3, skin jaundiced, warm,
diaphoretic.
VS:
NIBP 90/38, P 112, R 46, SpO2 86% @ 20lpm O2 via NRB
and Nasal Cannula.
Airway open and patent. No JVD or tracheal deviation. Breath
Sounds
scattered rhonchii bilaterally, with wheezes in all fields.
Abdomen
shallow, rigidity over BUQ. PEG feeding tube in place,
secured.
Foley Cath, with approx 300 mL cloudy urine.
Extremities 2+ pulses, normal
sensation and motor function. EKG = Sinus Tach with rare
unifocal PVC.
SpO2 as mentioned above.
IV lines: Multi-Vitamin drip at 60 mL/hr. NS at 75 mL/hr.
Dopamine at 10 mL/hr.
Other info:
Patient is being transferred to a higher level facility for close
pulmonary evaluation and care, possible further surgery.
Crew configuration:
The ambulance is ALS staffed with one paramedic
and one
EMT-I.
Questions:
What is this patients problem?
What can you/are you going to do about it?
What other medications would you consider giving?
note: You have a 30 minute transport if you run L&S.
Have at it, y'all.
Outcome
posted July 20, '00
We certainly had some great discussion about this case, and I
enjoyed hearing the different thought processes that went into your posts.
Keep up the good work in your replies, and this case-discussion list will
really take off.
While we often think of 9-1-1 emergency responses for
critical patients as the most challenging (and they can be challenging, I
admit,) when I ran this call, it really got my brain working overtime.
Unfortunately, I could not follow up as much as I'd have liked to on this
patient, or I'd have a whole lot more information for you.
Refresher info: 78 y/o F transfering to a different facility for pulmonary
problems status-post operative repair of a AAA.
Treatment rendered enroute: I kept the patient on the oxygen, and did my
best to maintain the 20+ lpm. I hooked the NRB to the portable tank until
we got her from the ICU to the ambulance. Then I switched the NRB to the
main tank, and hooked the nasal cannula to the portable tank. Enroute, I
maintained the dopamine drip, watched the EKG closely, and did a continual
SpO2 (Pulse Oximeter) reading. I gave her 40mg Lasix SIVP, and dropped in a
slow bolus of 250 mL Saline. A nebulized Albuterol treatment completes my
transport treatment. When we arrived at the destination hospital, her B/P
was 96/58 (on the Dopamine drip,) pulse 118, and R 36. The crackles and
wheezes had cleared up slightly, and she stated a decrease in WOB (Work of
Breathing...i.e "It is easier to breathe.") Her SpO2 was up to 92% or so,
and remained there all the way to the ICU. She was transferred to the ICU
bed, and they (the RNs and the PA) switched her to Dobutamine, did a quick
spirometry test (volume ventilation test....basically how much air the
patient is moving on their own,) and then sedated, paralyzed, and
intubated. Hooked up to a ventilator, and that's when I left. I shoulda jotted down
the vent settings, but I forgot.
Comments:
1. Many of you talked of Dobutamine, and while I agree with you, I don't
carry Dobutamine on the truck.
2. Remember the dehissance wound from the surgery? It was putting pressure
on the vessels into the liver, and that caused her to enter early acute
liver failure. Someone mentioned this, though I don't remember who. Good
catch.
3. Sepsis was brought up a few times. Also a good catch. She was well into
septic shock, and this certainly didn't help matters. I recall that she had
rec'd IV ABx at the original hospital, but I do not recall what it was (i.e
Vancomyacin, Levaquin, etc.)
4. Air transport was not available.
5. I'd really have liked to see a summary of her lab work over the last week
or so. CBCs, Chem profiles, U/A, Liver panle, and (perhaps most important
for the transport) ABG results. I'd have given anything for a set of ABGs
showing the changes over the past four or five days.
6. The most challenging thing for me on this call was trying to figure out
what was the root problem: Is it the sepsis, the liver failure,
hypovolemia, heart failure, respiratory failure, or something else? If I
can find out what caused what, then it is easier to direct my treatment.
Analogy: Little old lady who fell. Did she fall because she tripped? Or
did she fall because she had a syncopla episode? If she had syncope, why?
Did she hit her head? If so, did it cause her to have a siezure? If she
siezed, did she become apnic? And did that apnea cause her to enter some
sort of arrhythmia? What is the original problem, and how do I fix that?
Everything else will fall into place after that.
Good comments from everyone. I'll try to get another case posted in a week
or so. Anyone have parting thoughts on this case?
Regards,
Jeff Brosius
B.S., NREMTP, CCT-P
"Medicine is the only profession that
labors incessantly to destroy the reason
for its own existence." -- James Bryce
Brief
quiz related to "Transfer Case"
The 'Who's On First' Case
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Hey gang. Sorry it took me so long to get the next case up, but my computer
managed to catch a virus, and I decided to get rid of the virus first then
post the case. Didn't think y'all would like me anymore if I managed to get
everyone infected.
Let's run down a little MCI scenario, and see what
happens:
Hx: Two car MVC, car one rear ends car two, car two hits into a concrete
bridge support.
Initial Response: One BLS engine, One ALS Ambulance, two LEO's.
Urban area, five minute response, two miles from Level 1 trauma center. 0400 hours, Saturday Morning. Approximate rate of speed at impact
45-50 mph.
Car 1: Two occupants, driver restrained (SB/SH/AB), pssgr
unrestrained, both standing near vehicle (Ford Explorer SUV.) Car two:
impact into bridge support causes car to catch fire. Occupants both
unresponsive, removed from car by bystanders, found lying on ground about
twenty feet from car (Mercedes 2 door sedan.)
Patient one: Driver SUV. C/O dyspnea, neck stiffness, and L arm pain.
Angulation of L wrist, weakened pulse, delayed CRT. Other VS stable and
normal (Pulse and resps slightly high, probably due to stress and anxiety.)
Breath sounds normal. SpO2 99% RA. No neck/back pain, no LOC, no other
findings.
Patient Two: Passenger SUV. Pt c/o headache and neck pain, nausea, and
minor dyspnea. Pt vomited x 1 prior to arrival. Questionable LOC. Pt
confused, asking repetitive questions. B/P 146/92, P 80, R 22, SpO2 97%.
PERRLA, Airway Open, no jvd, no tracheal deviation. Breath sounds clear x
4, abdomen soft, tender BUQ. Pelvis stable, extremities CMS normal.
Contusion to forehead, nares and ears clear.
Patient Three: Driver mercedes. Unknown restraints. Found lying supine on
sidewalk, unresponsive. Pulseless and apnic. Jaw Thrust Manuver performed,
still apnic. EKG = Asystole (Lead I, II, III) No outward signs of trauma.
Patient Four: Pssgr Mercedes. Unknown restraints. Found lying on sidewalk,
unresponsive. Agonal respirations. Normal Radials. B/P 156/96, P 62, R
10. Jaw thrust performed, blood in airway. Breath sounds clear x 4.
Pupils: L fixed at 4mm, R sluggish at 7mm. Nares: blood R nare. Ears
clear. Airway: Blood as mentioned above. No JVD/Tracheal deviation.
Abdomen soft, no masses or distention. Pelvis stable. Extremities 3+
pulses, no movement.
That's it. Things to consider when you reply to the list....
1. Who's first to go? Why?
2. Who's last? Why?
3. Treatment?
Let's hear it....
Jeff
Outcome
posted August 23, '00
OK, gang. We seemed to have some consensus on who got
triaged first, who was last, and what to do for everyone. Remember, although this is
not a true MCI (definition: More patients than you have resources to
handle), the goal in an MCI is to "Do the most good for the most people."
Here's what we did.....
First and foremost, we called for a backup transport truck. We
also got a second fire engine rolling for manpower (and to put out the fire!)
Patient 1: Pt. complained of Neck stiffness and L arm Fx (fracture). He was
Immobilized with a spine board, collar, and head blocks. His arm
was splinted, a cold pack was applied to the Fx, and he was triaged to
be the third priority. An EMT-I started an IV line, and the second unit
gave him a dose of narcotic analgesia (4 mg Morphine Sulfate, approved by
Medical
Control.)
Patient 2: Pt. complained of headache, nausea, and neck pain. He
was also immobilized with a board, collar, and blocks. He was given Oxygen
at 12 lpm via Non-Rebreather Mask, and given an IV line. He was triaged as
the second priority, and monitored closely by a paramedic. The second unit
transported
him as well.
Patient 3: Pt found pulseless and apnic. He was pronounced DOA,
and no care was provided to him. The Medical Examiner was called, and
arrived to take the patient to the morgue.
Patient 4: Pt. unconscious, agonal resps. He was triaged first,
and recieved suction of the airway, placement of an ETT, confirmed
ith ETCO2, visual inspection, and Esophageal aspiration syringe test.
Ventilation assisted with BVM at 18-22 breaths/minute. Two IV lines were
started on him, both large bore at "Keep-Open" rate. EKG was attached, and
VS repeated once enroute.
Thoughts from my side:
-- Some of you mentioned calling in a helicopter, some didn't.
With a trauma center only two miles away, I don't see much need for the
bird. -
-- RSI was not available, in case anyone was wondering.
-- Ideally, I'd have liked to call TWO more untis, but we were
getting hammered that night, and the third unit would have been twenty
minutes away.
I called the second unit, told them what to expect, and that was
that. We transported the first patient, and left the second and third
patients with the Fire Dept. EMTs, and Paramedics. Therefore there was no
abandonment.
-- People really should wear their seatbelts.
-- Advance notice was given to the ER. We simply told them to be
prepared for two criticals and one minor. They didn't even flinch..."We'll
see you when you get here."
Anyone with other comments?
Regards,
Jeff Brosius
Brief
triage quiz related to "Who's On First"
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Brief
Head injury quiz (opens
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"Hello, is
this the telephone pole?"
Some day we are going to outlaw motorcycles that have top speeds that are
double the speed limit. Until then, we in EMS will continue to run calls
like this one, the Peachtree Street Case of the Month...
Dispatch Info: Single vehicle accident, motorcycle collided with a
telephone pole. Four lane city street, roughly 0300 hours. Responding
units include ALS ambulance, BLS engine, and ALS Fire-resuce. Response time
is 5 minutes for the engine, 6 minutes for the ambulance, and 8 minutes for
the resuce. Air evac is not available, and the closest trauma hospital is
Level II about 12 minutes away.
Scene Size-up: Three cars have pulled over to attempt to offer assistance.
The engine is on scene, and starting to walk toward the patient. The
motorcycle is one of the common "sport bikes" (i.e. Ninja) and is a total
wreck. The patient is lying on the ground about 40-50 feet from the
telephone pole, and the bike is about 150 feet farther away. One male
patient is lying supine on the ground. You do not see any obvious deformity
or hemorrhage as you pull on scene.
Exam: Black male, early 20's, unresponsive on the ground.
HEENT: normal
and atraumatic head. Pupils deviated left, reactive, and sluggish. Ears
and nares clear of blood or fluid. Airway open, teeth clenched. No obvious
C-Spine deformity, mild JVD. Trachea midline and mobile. Breath sounds
diminished on the left side, no crepitus or flail segment. Abdomen rigid
and distended. Pelvis stable, without crepitus. Extremities non-remarkable, unable to determine motor unction due to unconscious. EKG
shown below. Glucose 92 mg/dL. SpO2 unavailable due to poor reading. VS:
B/P 82/palp. P 136, R 8 and shallow.
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the mini EKG to see the big picture in a new window

What ya gonna do?
Jeff
Outcome
Hey everyone. Sorry I've been so lax in getting the case results posted.
I'd tell you about how busy I've been, but I'm sure you already know. Two
Words: Flu Season.
Review of the Case:
We have a 20 year old male who was riing a motorcycle and lost
contol,
colliding with a telephone pole. His Vital Signs: 82/P, 136, and 8. We
have plenty of help available, and a 12 minute ride to the hospital.
What's wrong: Among other minor lacerations, his primary concerns are a
probable head injury (deviated pupils,) some type of internal bleed (rigid
abdomen) and a developing tension pneumothorax (diminished breath sounds and
JVD.)
What we did: Orally intubated on scene (had to pry the mouth open, as RSI
is not available for EMS here.) Intubation was done without any problems,
and done with C-Spine precautions. He was placed on a backboard, secured
with straps, and we started rolling to the hospital. Enroute, as we
assisted ventilations with a BVM and high concentrations of oxygen, I did a
needle thorocotomy/needle decompression with a 14G IV Catheter. Minor
release of air, and the patient became slightly easier to ventilate for a
short time. I managed to get one IV line, a 16G in his arm, but couldn't
get a second line before we got to the hospital. I kept the fluid at a
moderately slow rate, as I didn't want to overload him with fluid.
The tension pneumo came back as we pulled up on the ramp, and the ER stuck a
chest tube in to relieve the pressure. The patient spent about 20 minutes
in the ER, and then went to surgery. He was in the OR for about 3 hours
before he was pronounced dead. His injuries included a moderate sized
intercranial bleed, a tension pneumothorax, and....here's the kicker...
A traumatic rupture of the descending aorta.
Wearing a helmet wouldn't have made a bit of difference.
Points to ponder? How much fluid would you have given, and why? Would you
have hyperventilated him (i.e. 24-30 breaths a minute) or just ventilate at
a normal (i.e. 14-20) rate?
Jeff
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